Loveable Loo Eco-Friendly Compost Toilet

April 16, 2010 · 26 comments

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The Loveable Loo is a collection toilet for use when composting human manure (“humanure”). You can buy them on the internet at josephjenkins.com (under the “compost” category) and this little video shows you how they’re made.

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1 miraclesthepony April 16, 2010 at 3:37 pm

@FishyMoe The clearvue cyclones website is a good place to start. Click on “general info” then from the menu click on “wood dust” for a good summary of many of the wood dust dangers. Otherwise just do a google search for “wood dust lung cancer” or any variation. After that, google “broccoli lung cancer” for fun.

2 FishyMoe April 16, 2010 at 3:49 pm

@miraclesthepony do you have any links to these studies? What is considered dust? (like size of particles?) What trees are safe?

3 miraclesthepony April 16, 2010 at 4:07 pm

@nomoreremakes Thank you for reminding me! I almost totally forgot to take them again!

4 miraclesthepony April 16, 2010 at 4:09 pm

@FishyMoe Nope, good old oak is one of the offenders. also many others. some studies show smoking combined with wood dust exposure to have a synergistic effect on lung cancer.

5 zomgwtfbbqbagel April 16, 2010 at 4:14 pm

A septic tank is basically a 600 times larger version of this loo. Trucks that clean out your septic system take the waste to farms and composting sites. Loveable loos are irrelevant.

6 birdland5 April 16, 2010 at 4:38 pm

@miraclesthepony There is no dust if you follow Joe’s directions. Use green sawdust. Better yet, READ THE BOOOOOK….

7 sclisrael April 16, 2010 at 4:48 pm

I just was at a festival in Israel where there was a sawdust outhouse. AMAZING!! Clean, no smells, no flys. Literally hundreds of people using the outhouse-Would love to make one of these-

8 FishyMoe April 16, 2010 at 5:17 pm

@miraclesthepony what? you mean treated pine right…

9 nomoreremakes April 16, 2010 at 6:13 pm

How much does the Loveable Loo cost?

10 nomoreremakes April 16, 2010 at 6:57 pm

Please take your meds.

11 nomoreremakes April 16, 2010 at 7:09 pm

If it’s this easy to make your own composting toilet, why are people selling them online for so much damn money?

The current retail prices for these things are ridiculous. It’s like they don’t want people to compost or something.

12 SaltSeahorse April 16, 2010 at 8:02 pm

Have you read the Humanure Handbook? Joseph Jenkins. Its a great read and covers all the relevant areas required to compost human manure. They recommend wood chips from the lumber yard, so from untreated wood rather than chips from the joinery end which may have been treated.
If you are unhappy with wood chips i guarentee that you will be able to find a “waste” product that you can mix with the manure which optimises the carbon/nitrogen mix and as a cover material. Good luck!

13 GeaVox April 16, 2010 at 8:38 pm

Absolutely! :o ) Surfers Against Sewage would most likely endorse the Loveable Loo as returning organic waste to its right and proper place, where it can do some god, instead of leaving flotsam of the most disgusting nature, to haunt surfers and marine life alike!

14 guyfromtheairport April 16, 2010 at 8:53 pm

When you surf, sewerage and seaweed (which sometimes has sea lice) is undesireable.

15 miraclesthepony April 16, 2010 at 9:05 pm

WOOD DUST CAN CAUSE CANCER! Please do not bring wood dust into your home! The IARC lists wood dust as a group1 CARCINOGEN! This is the same category as tobacco. I’m a woodworker and I go to great lengths to control wood dust. It gets everywhere. You cant see the smallest particles which do the most damage and they are blown into the air very easily. Is there a better option?

16 Snurdgerbly April 16, 2010 at 9:18 pm

I like the simplicity of the design and the craftsmanship that goes into the loos. They must be a pleasure to use.

17 guyglowmore1 April 16, 2010 at 10:13 pm

i use the wood ash as a border around my humanure pile on the downhill side. it’s absorbent so any liquid overflow will be contained. when it rains i don’t add any urine. everything else composts well except maybe salted peanut shells and avocado seeds. great success with citrus peels, onion parts, bannana peel, nut shells, avo peels, paper, salad extras, and parts of carrotts, spuds, lettuce and other greens, reds, date seeds. . .i still have my humanure handbook. love it

18 jcjenkins01 April 16, 2010 at 11:08 pm

No.

19 treehugger460 April 16, 2010 at 11:42 pm

Are you, or anyone else, working on a Federal mandate so that everyone must start doing this to save our Mother Earth?

20 1too3fore April 16, 2010 at 11:58 pm

I’ve switched to sawdust, too, but accidentally got some planer shavings mixed with sawdust, and they seem to work just fine although a bit fluffier as Joe mentions. Next time, I’m getting sander sawdust. I get them for free from a woodworkers club.

21 jcjenkins01 April 17, 2010 at 12:18 am

no – there is no odor when properly managed.

22 AnnieNM06 April 17, 2010 at 1:07 am

would this be stinky?

23 1too3fore April 17, 2010 at 1:24 am

I use all different kinds of stuff, including grass clippings, old flour, leaves, horse manure, hot compost, whatever I happen to have on hand

24 1too3fore April 17, 2010 at 2:16 am

I just met a guy who retired from a sewage treatment plant. They tested the raw stuff all the time and almost never found any pathogens in the stuff. But time will also kill off the pathogens due to the antagonistic ecosystem of the compost pile.

25 1too3fore April 17, 2010 at 2:32 am

You could also try coffee grounds, if you are near a local coffee shop that is willing to set them aside for you. Sawdust can also be acquired from woodworker clubs…

26 timedonkey April 17, 2010 at 7:31 am

The Water Crisis, A Practical Solution

The Water crisis is the most serious problem humanity has ever faced. Water pollution has infused the entire food chain with neurotoxins, poisons and pharmaceuticals, all of which damage the health and survivability of man and planet. The cause is our modern, water based sewer system. We flush all of our disposables down the drain, into the sewer system where more chemicals are added and then finally pumped back into our water system. Water based sewer systems are the prime polluters and our use of them has proved to be full of unintended and unanticipated horrors. The use of water based sewer system wastes and contaminates the entire water supply with pollutants and nutrients that if captured and recycled, could provide sufficient agricultural nutrients to ensure a sustainable food supply.

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